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"I snuck down the crick and shot im, then I drug im up the bank and skun im there."

Date: 6 Sep 2003 22:14 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] pipibluestockin
???

What on earth was the context?

Date: 6 Sep 2003 22:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psaakyrn.livejournal.com
/me doesn't understand why people like to hunt down poor almost-defenceless critters. :/

Date: 6 Sep 2003 22:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zibblsnrt.livejournal.com
It's arguably more humane than the methods most people get their burgers.

Date: 6 Sep 2003 23:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psaakyrn.livejournal.com
Perhaps, but then, burgers are still (in some sense) food, and I do believe people actually care for the cows. The cows are at least garanteed a sort-of safe life, while the foxes have to deal with natural hazards..

Date: 6 Sep 2003 23:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zibblsnrt.livejournal.com
But cows are significantly more defenseless than foxes, and are likely to have a shorter term in their sort-of-safe life than most wild larger mammals. Farm animals live in conditions where they're castrated without anasthesia because it saves on cost, to give you an example. And don't get me started on chickens.

Just because the animal doesn't have a gun of its own doesn't make hunting evil.

Date: 8 Sep 2003 18:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenris-lorsrai.livejournal.com
Now, now, there's more than just the cost reason. I have actually castrated piglets before and the reason they don't use general anesthesia on the little squealers is because anesthesia is inherently risky on small animals. Pigs are really tricky because its hard to get a needle in them in the right spot. (to take a large blood sample or inject straight to the blood stream, for example, you need to go into the vena cava, which was something we always called the state vet in to deal with because even the local large animal vet didn't feel confident he'd hit it right all the time). You do use a local anesthetic to deaden the skin.
So, piglets are castrated without general anesthesia. Its a two person process, takes two people (one to hold, one to operate) and if they're even reasonably competent, takes about 30 second all told from grabbing the pig to putting on the antiseptic powder at the end.
Within about 30 second after that they're back to nursing off their mother, not really much the worse for wear.

This is of course a whole different ball of wax if you are doing it on a fully grown animal or something other than a pig. It isn't always just straight up costs or cruelty though, and its not fair to tar everyone with the same brush.

Date: 6 Sep 2003 23:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ursulav.livejournal.com
Bear in mind that unless I am much mistaken, our esteemed journalist lives in Australia, where foxes are a non-native introduced species that wreaks terrible havoc on the native marsupial population and has driven many of them to the edge of extinction. Killing foxes in such a context can be a very ecologically friendly thing to do, and significantly safer than poison or any of the other methods of fox population control that would also run the risk of harming the natives.

Date: 7 Sep 2003 00:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com
You're quite right about foxes, but cats are worse.

This post was mainly about the odd word usage. I haven't heard snuck, skun or drug used on one sentence.

(Hear that? She said I'm esteemed.)

Date: 7 Sep 2003 06:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sjwt.livejournal.com
lets not leave dogs out of this,
did you know in fese(sp) studies
of cats and dogs, dogs on average
had more native wildlife the cats..

mind you i am talking outer bush backing
suburs hear..

Id say there are more feral cats then \
dogs..

Date: 7 Sep 2003 09:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tropism.livejournal.com
I've never run into "skun" before, and I've been to some pretty hick places. Snuck and drug, though, those're common...

Date: 7 Sep 2003 10:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ursulav.livejournal.com
You is esteemed!

And yeah, cats too...I love my cats dearly, but I'm quite aware that they are evil, diabolical killing machines that would wreak a vicious toll on songbird and small fuzzy thing populations if they had a chance.

Well, one of 'em would. The other one would probably be beaten to death by bilbies or something equally tragic.

Date: 6 Sep 2003 23:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com
I was commenting more on the word usage. However, foxes are a blight here and need to be exterminated. these poor defensless critters ave wiped out species. 8(

Date: 6 Sep 2003 22:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynne.livejournal.com
Heh. A while back, one of the tapes I had to transcribe contained the improbable verb "randed" - as in, "then her car randed into mine."

Date: 7 Sep 2003 06:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterdemalion.livejournal.com
heheh my Nan always says crick and snuck and drug..


8-)

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