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den ([personal profile] den) wrote2003-09-07 03:09 pm

Heard in a shop

"I snuck down the crick and shot im, then I drug im up the bank and skun im there."

[personal profile] pipibluestockin 2003-09-06 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
???

What on earth was the context?

[identity profile] psaakyrn.livejournal.com 2003-09-06 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
/me doesn't understand why people like to hunt down poor almost-defenceless critters. :/

[identity profile] zibblsnrt.livejournal.com 2003-09-06 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's arguably more humane than the methods most people get their burgers.

[identity profile] psaakyrn.livejournal.com 2003-09-06 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps, but then, burgers are still (in some sense) food, and I do believe people actually care for the cows. The cows are at least garanteed a sort-of safe life, while the foxes have to deal with natural hazards..

[identity profile] zibblsnrt.livejournal.com 2003-09-06 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
But cows are significantly more defenseless than foxes, and are likely to have a shorter term in their sort-of-safe life than most wild larger mammals. Farm animals live in conditions where they're castrated without anasthesia because it saves on cost, to give you an example. And don't get me started on chickens.

Just because the animal doesn't have a gun of its own doesn't make hunting evil.

[identity profile] fenris-lorsrai.livejournal.com 2003-09-08 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Now, now, there's more than just the cost reason. I have actually castrated piglets before and the reason they don't use general anesthesia on the little squealers is because anesthesia is inherently risky on small animals. Pigs are really tricky because its hard to get a needle in them in the right spot. (to take a large blood sample or inject straight to the blood stream, for example, you need to go into the vena cava, which was something we always called the state vet in to deal with because even the local large animal vet didn't feel confident he'd hit it right all the time). You do use a local anesthetic to deaden the skin.
So, piglets are castrated without general anesthesia. Its a two person process, takes two people (one to hold, one to operate) and if they're even reasonably competent, takes about 30 second all told from grabbing the pig to putting on the antiseptic powder at the end.
Within about 30 second after that they're back to nursing off their mother, not really much the worse for wear.

This is of course a whole different ball of wax if you are doing it on a fully grown animal or something other than a pig. It isn't always just straight up costs or cruelty though, and its not fair to tar everyone with the same brush.

[identity profile] ursulav.livejournal.com 2003-09-06 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Bear in mind that unless I am much mistaken, our esteemed journalist lives in Australia, where foxes are a non-native introduced species that wreaks terrible havoc on the native marsupial population and has driven many of them to the edge of extinction. Killing foxes in such a context can be a very ecologically friendly thing to do, and significantly safer than poison or any of the other methods of fox population control that would also run the risk of harming the natives.

[identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com 2003-09-07 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
You're quite right about foxes, but cats are worse.

This post was mainly about the odd word usage. I haven't heard snuck, skun or drug used on one sentence.

(Hear that? She said I'm esteemed.)

[identity profile] sjwt.livejournal.com 2003-09-07 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
lets not leave dogs out of this,
did you know in fese(sp) studies
of cats and dogs, dogs on average
had more native wildlife the cats..

mind you i am talking outer bush backing
suburs hear..

Id say there are more feral cats then \
dogs..

[identity profile] tropism.livejournal.com 2003-09-07 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
I've never run into "skun" before, and I've been to some pretty hick places. Snuck and drug, though, those're common...

[identity profile] ursulav.livejournal.com 2003-09-07 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
You is esteemed!

And yeah, cats too...I love my cats dearly, but I'm quite aware that they are evil, diabolical killing machines that would wreak a vicious toll on songbird and small fuzzy thing populations if they had a chance.

Well, one of 'em would. The other one would probably be beaten to death by bilbies or something equally tragic.

[identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com 2003-09-06 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I was commenting more on the word usage. However, foxes are a blight here and need to be exterminated. these poor defensless critters ave wiped out species. 8(

[identity profile] elynne.livejournal.com 2003-09-06 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. A while back, one of the tapes I had to transcribe contained the improbable verb "randed" - as in, "then her car randed into mine."

[identity profile] tatterdemalion.livejournal.com 2003-09-07 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
heheh my Nan always says crick and snuck and drug..


8-)