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This morning's news says 16 are confirmed dead, 150 are injured. It looks like some arse-hole from Jamal Islamir drove a van into the covered driveway in front of the motel and set it off.

The PM has offered the Indonesians the use and resources of the Federal Police to help track down the killers.

Date: 5 Aug 2003 19:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrfnord.livejournal.com
A minor problem with raining iron bombs down on their heads is that iron bombs raineth upon the just and the unjust in equal measure. Unless of course DARPA has finally perfected those bombs which kill only the Guilty.

To wit, how many innocents are you willing to kill to get one terrorist? And how many is too many?

I await your reply,

Joshua Abraham Norton

Date: 5 Aug 2003 20:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] makovette.livejournal.com
Number of innocents I'm willing to kill == 0, presumably you're in agreement on this point.

Carpet bombing has thankfully gone the way of Bomber Harris. We do the best we can to minimize, but we're not perfect and yes, the horrors of war are visited upon the innocent as ever it was despite the best intentions and massive amount of treasure spent to minimize it.

I suggest that the terrorists could hang up their suicide vests, park their trucks bombs and end the killing on both sides completely and immediately, but that is perhaps too sane a suggestion to be taken seriously.

Number of terrorists I am willing to allow to have free reign to blow up hotels, hospitals &ct out of fear of injuring innocents == 0 too.

These goals are in direct conflict with each other, I'm not blind nor stupid. Nor am I willing to sit here and allow terrorists to slit our throats whenever they get a hair up their arse. The world has a way of coming down to Us vs. Them.

This latest Muslim terrorism is being exported world wide. The terrorists have deliberately bloodied the West and told us in no uncertain terms that they are out to destroy us all in a throw back to the old "Convert or Die" mentality of pre-Renaissance days.

There is not one whit of interest in "diversity of religions" or "toleration of other cultures" in their rhetoric. It's all kill the infidel and take all that his is, because Allah says not only that you can, but that you are obligated to do so.

That means literally you and me my friend. Do some Googling for the text of Bin Ladin's speeches if you doubt me...

'nuf cluttering of gentle Batty's LJ on this I think...

Mako

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