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Date: 21 Oct 2008 12:22 (UTC)no subject
Date: 21 Oct 2008 12:34 (UTC)no subject
Date: 21 Oct 2008 13:06 (UTC)I like food
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Date: 22 Oct 2008 17:27 (UTC)Therefore I must despise both the creatures that walk the earth and the plants, one supposes.
Even the spores aren't safe; I love me some sauteed or grilled mushrooms.
" I don't eat people! Eating people is Wrong!"
"Communist!" - The Reluctant Cannibal
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 13:29 (UTC)I like mine with extra cheese
Date: 21 Oct 2008 16:18 (UTC)no subject
Date: 21 Oct 2008 16:26 (UTC)Imagine what other acts we could justify by looking at the natural behavior of human ancestry.
Eating plants is less immoral because all biological investigation suggests they are incapable of experiencing human-like suffering. Whereas with animals, especially the higher mammals, all observations point to the ability to experience suffering.
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 18:42 (UTC)This is why I neither believe in nor support "animal rights". I believe and support animal welfare.
My food choices are organic when possible, free-range when available, and avoid factory-farmed goods whenever I have the chance. I've raised my own chickens, and only God could give better eggs than that. And truly, you'd never see a happier flock of birds than those that had free run of our farm.
I've had grass-fed beef, and nothing you can get in a grocery store could ever compare. Same thing with natural pork, wild fish and lamb. All of it came from farms where I could see the animals, walk through their fields and pens if I chose, and know exactly what I was eating. Or, as in the case of fish, I caught it myself, either by hook and line, or up close and personal with a speargun.
Animals that are kept happy and joyful, without fear or want, are truly the most nutritious and delicious I have ever tasted.
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Date: 21 Oct 2008 22:19 (UTC)I will happily stand behind welfare groups such as RSPCA, zoos, even Greenpeace and Sea Shepard.
Were it not for farms, cattle would only be found on the plains of Africa, chickens would only be found in Asian rain forests, Sheep would be dodging bullets in mountains of the Middle East, and pigs would only be found in the last remnants of the European forests vanishing under the tide of grain farms.
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Date: 22 Oct 2008 00:09 (UTC)But so many attitudes about it are categorical. Just because one doesn't believe in some aspects of the animals rights movement doesn't condone entirely the conditions of factory farming, or mean that all criticism of the treatment of animals raised for food are deserving of the kind of derision that seems so prevalent.
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Date: 22 Oct 2008 07:09 (UTC)no subject
Date: 26 Oct 2008 16:53 (UTC)Of course, the other interpretation is that we're just a few tensors in a quantum state machine. It's quite difficult to come up with a workable objective system of ethics.
Mmmmmbacon.
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Date: 26 Oct 2008 21:31 (UTC)no subject
Date: 22 Oct 2008 00:22 (UTC)We always will eat people.
What else is there to eat?
If the Ju-Ju had meant us not to eat people,
He wouldn't have made us of meat!
- The Reluctant Cannibal
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Date: 22 Oct 2008 10:24 (UTC)