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I installed a new NVidia 7300 series Geoforce7 video card. Now none of my OpenGL programs run.

Celestia, GoogleEarth, Moray, Blender, and AC3D all barf at start up, leaving me with a windows error message that "something" has gone wrong, and XP wants to phone home with an error report. I'm certain it's a card problem, because Google Earth ran until I switched the display from DirectX to OpenGL.

Hmmm... Much to ponder about this.

Date: 22 Sep 2007 12:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weyrdbird.livejournal.com
I'll just bet you you'll get told it's a driver issue.8/
It's what I heard a lot when things quit working or wouldn't run from tech support.
Don't knock the answert entirely; it's true a portion of the time.
The other half in my limited DOS non geek fu hackery once you go get it to run is configuration and compatibility.
But then I'm a convert to the other side of the farce now, so I should quit

Date: 22 Sep 2007 13:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com
I think it is a driver issue, but the right drivers are loaded.

Date: 22 Sep 2007 14:45 (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
But do you have the latest drivers?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_162.18.html

Is for the 7 series of NVidia cards. I've got a 7600 GT, works like a dream on everything. Run into the Control Panel and check the NVidia settings, make sure GL is enabled.

Date: 22 Sep 2007 22:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com
I've gone through the settings and can't find the "enable" switch at all.

Date: 23 Sep 2007 03:44 (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
When you get the error message, what is the EXACT wording?

It can't be the 7000 series, or the drivers. My 7600 GT works flawlessly with OpenGL programs. I'm on my laptop at the moment, so I can't check the NVidia panel right now. I'll get back to you tomorrow.

Date: 24 Sep 2007 02:06 (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hunh. It looks like the problem isn't with the card, but the program. Can you get in and change any settings?

Date: 22 Sep 2007 14:13 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jamesb
A few questions:

How much RAM do you have fitted?

How much memory is on your new video card?

What size is your swap file?

Are you running XP Pro or XP Pro 64?


I may be barking up a dead horse, and the answers may be no use at all, but as Marty Feldman put it in Young Frankenstein, "call it a hunch".

Date: 22 Sep 2007 22:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com
512MB RAM
256 RAM on the card
swapfile is "Let Windows Determine" on the primary slave.
And it's XP Pro.

OpenGL used to work with the old card. What does your hunch say?

Date: 22 Sep 2007 22:56 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jamesb
OK, this time I WAS definitely barking up a dead horse.

I suspected that as this seemed to be a graphics intensive computer, you may have had a lot more RAM and had hit XP's 4GB total memory space barrier (RAM + Video card Memory + Swap File can not be greater than 4GB) which can often show funny symptoms including problems with drivers for some of the devices that use memory. It sometimes raises its ugly head if you were close to the limit with the old video card, and your new video card adds sufficient extra memory to push you over the 4GB barrier.

Date: 22 Sep 2007 17:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
I installed a new nVidia 7600 series GeForce.

It works fine in 800x600 mode, until I install the drivers -- and then it shuts down. No signal.

I thought the first was a faulty card, but when I returned it and got a replacement, it did the same thing.

So I'm back on my creaky ol' 5500.

Maybe it's just the 7000 series.

Date: 22 Sep 2007 22:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com
Mine works fine in all resolutions, just no openGL so I can't run my 3D render programs.

Date: 23 Sep 2007 05:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sjwt.livejournal.com
Last time i swaped Video cards I had to uninstall and reinstall all my open GL's.

Date: 23 Sep 2007 06:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com
poop. I didn't want to do that. I'll give it a go.

Date: 23 Sep 2007 17:59 (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If you try google earth first it is easy to install and setup.then if that works you can change the rest if not OH Dear!!

steve

PS it was not me with the new well paid job

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