XP 2, Den 1
16 August 2007 16:36Once again XP at work defeats me. The design PC was connecting to the internet yesterday, and today it doesn't. It can see my PC, and I can see it. Both PCs can print off each other's printers. My PC can see the internet and the router. The other PC can't see either, or send email.
The settings are the same. Turning off the firewall doesn't help.
I checked the filtering on the router, which what caught me last time.
I bang my head on the keyboard.
Nothing helps except for the banging of the head.
The settings are the same. Turning off the firewall doesn't help.
I checked the filtering on the router, which what caught me last time.
I bang my head on the keyboard.
Nothing helps except for the banging of the head.
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 23:03 (UTC)Can't access the router web interface, but I can from my PC.
Changing ports didn't fix it.
Disabling all filtering etc. didn't work. Hitting reset to restore factory defaults didn't work.
And yet it can see my HDD but not ping.
The really annoying thing is that the PC did connect to the net, and then it didn't. The only thing that happened between was an MS update, so it connected to collect the update then lost the connection. It's most likely a local problem, and maybe a router problem. Under "Network Connections" there is only the LAN showing, no Internet connection. I've tried to create one ("broadband always on") and XP tells me that I am already connected. But that's only the idiot Wizard.
This sort of shit was a doddle under 98, but XP just beats me.
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 23:15 (UTC)MS has a KB article on code 65. (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316414) Are you using Zone Alarm, and have you enabled ICS? If either of those is true, run, do not walk, and GET RID OF THAT SHIT. Or, at least, disable ICS (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;306126) and UNINSTALL Zone Alarm, and see if it fixes the problem. No, disabling Zone Alarm does not disable Zone Alarm. You *need* to uninstall it.
Apart from that, I'm going to summarise:
The broken machine cannot ping or reach the router's web interface.
It cannot ping your machine.
It *can* reach shared folders on your PC.
It *does* have a good IP.
It *cannot* reach the web via IP or name.
Is that correct?
Under network connections, there *should be* only the LAN. As far as your computer is concerned, the LAN is the internet, since it goes out to the router first before reaching the internet anyway.
More questions:
Static IP or DHCP?
What kind of connection on the far side of the router (cable, DSL, T1, other?)
Can you plug this computer into that connection directly and see what happens?
Are you using a firewall other than Windows Firewall? If so, what program?
At this point, I think the machine is the problem, specifically something in software. The trick is, now, to nail down WHAT that problem is.
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 23:39 (UTC)So now the only firewall I have on the office PCs is an Windows. What free firewall would you recommend, if not ZoneAlarm?
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 23:56 (UTC)These days, if I'm behind a router? I use Windows Firewall and be done with it. And I'm always behind a router.
I've heard good things about Zone Alarm from other people. I've just never seen them, ever. I don't like the product because it causes exactly this kind of problem, and has for most of the last decade.