Just reading through....

Date: 14 Aug 2006 21:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gatorofages.livejournal.com
Just because someone has and enjoys taxidermy mounts, does not make them a supporter of ill fated practices of wildlife mis managment, or poaching. Not all taxidermy mounts come from animals that are shot....

I have many of them, (no bats, actually, though a few small bat skulls) and they are from roadkilled wild animals, or dead zoological specimens.

I am aware that many of the specimens on ebay, like the bats, the tarantulas, and the stuffed rattlers and cobras, are taken en masse, with no real regulation regarding them, and many are dwindiling. Snakes, and Tarantulas are also long lived species that even in the best of times, are hardly sustainable populations that can rebound from those sort of unnaturally high pressures, though.

Re: Just reading through....

Date: 14 Aug 2006 22:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com
A lot of the flying foxes on Ebay are from S.E.Asia, and are mostly killed to order. A few I've seen are from Vietnam, and are of rare species. If Ebay would stop sales of rare taxidermy specimens then the kill-on-demand would drop right off.

I have no problem with taxidermy as such, but killing an animal to turn it into a specimen is very wrong.

Re: Just reading through....

Date: 15 Aug 2006 01:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gatorofages.livejournal.com
"If Ebay would stop sales of rare taxidermy specimens then the kill-on-demand would drop right off."

I wish I would/could agree that ebay has that much of an impact, (I have reported remains from endangered hornbills, native north american birds, and birds of prey, ect, all illegal to sell here) but if ebay doesn't have the market, there are a ton of kitchie "spooky" stores, and such that sell that sort of thing here. At the beach every summer I see no end to stores with mounted bats, cane toads, pirana, blowfish, and a variety of skulls and shells of sea animals and turtles for sale. Many are common species, and such, but every now and then you see something downright rare.

"I have no problem with taxidermy as such, but killing an animal to turn it into a specimen is very wrong."

Agreed for the most part, unless it is a serious scientfic specimen to document a species. (mostly in the case of arthropods)

Re: Just reading through....

Date: 14 Aug 2006 23:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kurtbatz.livejournal.com
It's almost impossible to find a 'perfect' dead bat specimen, unless it's from a wildlife supply agency. One species that you scientifically almost never find as roadkill as it goes. Can find me essay on it if you like, but it's very, very long, be warned ^^

Re: Just reading through....

Date: 15 Aug 2006 01:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gatorofages.livejournal.com
"It's almost impossible to find a 'perfect' dead bat specimen, unless it's from a wildlife supply agency"

I guess. I am in no need of an essay to figure that the animals on ebay and at sales places as dead specimens were "collected" - much like I don't need to see that for the snake specimens sold stuffed in numbers.

I don't live anywhere fruit bats live. I have though found bats dead, roadkilled bats, mummified bats, and have bats that came into rehab and die given to me. My specimens are North American species, for the most part prepared by myself, so, I know where they all came from. I do not sell or barter in them. I most certianly do not kill animals for specimens sake, including arthropods.

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