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[den]

why do people wait for a bloke to die before they list all the bad things he did? Would you have said these things before he died? If so, why didn't you?

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[twfarlan.livejournal.com]

My point precisely. I didn't ask that people had to think of him as without blemish just because he's dead; that'd be ridiculous. I did expect that, at the very least, people would be tactful in what they said, be respectful about it. And one particular person couldn't be and didn't accept that even if he didn't see the problem, I did and just maybe THAT was worth respecting if nothing else was.

This particular person has a major issue with respecting others, always has since I've known him. Frankly, all I feel I've lost by being unfriended there was a headache. One less person who doesn't listen, oh waah.

[starcat-jewel.livejournal.com]

Disclaimer: I haven't seen the entire exchange, and am not sure I want to. But if what Griff posted in his own journal was in fact what caused the fight, then I think you seriously overreacted by calling it "disrespectful".

There is a big difference between saying "He's an awful person and I'm glad he's dead" and saying "He wasn't a particularly good president, and he made important decisions that were not things to be proud of, and I think the adulation is getting over-the-top." It sounds to me, based on what I have seen, as if he said the latter and you heard the former.

[twfarlan.livejournal.com]

The problem is in part that you didn't see the original post since Griffen decided to delete it from my journal after I'd responded to it. Context is important, as always. However, I didn't just mean that he was being disrespectful to the deceased but also in that case to the person he was speaking to, the writer of the journal. If my post about it didn't make it obvious that the death had affected me on a personal level, then I'm not sure how else I could have said it... but there comes Griffen, telling me in essence that I'm feeling sorry for someone whom he considers complict in mass murder by pandemic. Respect for my feelings would have perhaps led a person to think, "Maybe this isn't the time or place." Sadly, this is something that I don't think he's capable of giving, seeing his own version of the truth as being more important than anyone else's perceptions or feelings.

[starcat-jewel.livejournal.com]

Ah, I see. Thank you for giving me your side; I agree that the difference between "disrespectful of the dead" and "disrespectful of the person whose journal you are posting in" is significant, and that was a context which had gone missing.