[identity profile] ccdesan.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Cute! Never known one that wasn't grumpy, though... Image

[identity profile] dizzdvl.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
So cute! Quark from DS9 kinda looks like Grumpy the Bat!

[identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
HAH! yeah!

[identity profile] walkertxkitty.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
It probably would not appreciate me at all, and I'd get bitten for my troubles, but I'd sure love to cuddle the little guy.

[identity profile] jim-lane.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Regular bats are always grumpy. Only flying foxes (IMHO) have sociable personalities, and (I'm told) can even make decent pets.

(And also from the info I gleaned years ago, flying foxes are actually primates, instead of chiroptera, which might, along with their far different brain physiology, account for the differences in personalities.)

[identity profile] ionotter.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently that theory is still being debated, but much of the genetic evidence is pointing away from a common primate ancestor in lieu of a megachiropteran ancestor. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat#Classification_and_evolution)

The theory was based on morphological traits, rather than genetic markers? But the neural characteristics are very similar to primates, as you mention. What's not mentioned in the Wiki article, but possibly in the cited references, is that evolution doesn't mind duplicating successful traits in non-related species.

[identity profile] jim-lane.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
True. (I read the Wiki article, too.) Flying foxes are so incredibly different from what we're familiar with re: "normal" bats, that they really do appear to be an entirely different species of animal, instead of a "kissing cousin" to little brown bats, vampire bats, hog-nosed bats, etc. They're quite intelligent, sociable and, in some situations, quite amusing in their relationship antics with other flying foxes. Sorry, but I just can't "feel warm & fuzzy" about a vampire bat, or any of the other little winged monsters. }|-/

[identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
Black, grey headed, and spectacled flying foxes can become very friendly and like people.

Little red flying foxes are bastards.

[identity profile] jim-lane.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Now now... I'm sure that, with a little kindness, the red ones could be brought to the negotiating table and turned into friends---just like the Red Chinese.

(*hehehehe!!!!*)

Please pass the melamine... }:-o

[identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Antisocial is the wrong word; Little Reds are very social. They are more ... xenophobic.
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[personal profile] kayshapero 2008-10-06 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
Cute batty, grumpy or not. :)
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[identity profile] gorthx.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
oooh, he's little! What a sweet little grumpy face.

[identity profile] fenris-lorsrai.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
The bat picks remind me. The founder of Bat World bat rescue in the US is up for Animal Planet's Hero of the Year (http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/hero_of_the_year/2008/nominees/index.html). The voting is here. Bat rescuer is Amanda Loller (http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/hero_of_the_year/poll/poll.html). Award comes with a large grant. I thought you might be interested in giving the bat folks a nudge up the listings.

[identity profile] annvole.livejournal.com 2008-10-15 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
looking closer at the face here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/battyden/2911089521/sizes/l/
I noticed two little pits or openings higher up on the nose then the nostrils... does anyone have any idea what those are?

[identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com 2008-10-15 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
They are part of a flap of skin that runs across the bridge of the nose, which has something to do with sonar focusing.