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den ([personal profile] den) wrote2004-04-17 09:46 am

Bloody Alston

Senator Richard Alston is the minister responsible for the Internet content regulations that came into force in 2000, which made it illegal to publish on the 'net what it is perfectly legal to buy over the counter. The public inquiry recieved 200+ well reasoned submissions into why this wouldn't work; submissions written by ISPs, technicians, and EFA representives. All of this was ignored so that the Government could be seen to be Protecting The Children. During the inquiry one of the politians waved a sheaf of pages he'd printed out, all full of PORN of the "most disgusting kind!" It must be taken off the Internet! It was also all from websites in the .dk and .se domains. The people making the regulations had no idea how the internet worked.

The regulations meant it was up to the ISP to take action if a complaint was made about a site, and the ISP would have to pay fines if they didn't.

Read about the law. Read why everyone not named Richard Alston said it wouldn't work. The law they enacted drove the erotica industry and online gambling indusrty off-shore, where they are still available from international sites where the Government has absolutly zero influence.

Protecting The Children from Bad Weather (a parody)

And now the Bick Dick will be in charge of Telstra. He doesn't understand the Internet, now he's in charge of the local backbone.


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And in other news, [livejournal.com profile] ursulav has the wombat tarot for sale on furbid.

[identity profile] bobbain.livejournal.com 2004-04-16 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
From Dr. Roger Clarke (EFA Board Member)

http://mailman.anu.edu.au/pipermail/link/1999-March/037555.html

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"The Government's regime will provide that the ABA, rather than a
service provider, is the first point of contact for complaints about
internet content. This decision recognises the limited resources of
many service providers, and the need to provide a speedy response to
complaints".

Possibly already the law anyway (and a position that I have
considerable personal/philosophical sympathy with), and it seems
practical enough.

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3. "The regime will define proscribed online content as:
- any material that has been, or would be, Refused Classification or
classified X under the National Classification Code, and
- material that is, or may be, R-rated and that lacks adult
- verification mechanisms, such as PIN codes, to prevent access by
minors".

Again, I can't, personally, get terribly upset about the basic
proposition. At least, not until Irene points out some aspect I've
missed (:-)}

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In summary, within the constraints of pressures from Harradine, and more
directly from the PM's and Treasurer's Offices (which will be frantic
during the remaining 3.5 months before the change in the composition of the
Senate, in order to get through, above all, the GST nonsense, and maybe
also the next Telstra tranche), my first reaction is that this isn't such a
bad job.

Ask not what your country can do for you.
Ask only what you can do for your country.






[identity profile] bobbain.livejournal.com 2004-04-16 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
> I watch Baise-Moi at Paddington town hall when it was legally rated
> "R" and could thus be shown in public.

Shrug, I don't like that sort of movies and I agree with Fred Nile that we don't need that sort of movies.

Posted by a "true believer" - a freedom loving "I don't march against proposed laws as many many people are concerned about the utter degrading filth on the Internet"

I marched.
I lobbied

Nobody shook my hand.
Many have nodded and agreed "we don't need that sort of movies"

If you wish to know who the proponents of censorship are look very very deeply at those you believe are against it and those who profit from it...

[identity profile] accessingname.livejournal.com 2004-04-17 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
lets hang ourselves the world is falling apart

Censorship

[identity profile] bobbain.livejournal.com 2004-04-17 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It's worth noting that the prohibition of video material and enforcement of that prohibition is a matter for State governments. It was the Liberal Party (the current Howard government) that legalised "X" rated material in the year 2000 under revised codes proposed by the Eros Foundation who have lobbied for well over a decade or more that "offensive fetishes" be removed from the "X" rating.

The State government adopts the Federal Classification scheme as a point of reference. They are not obliged to follow it. They can adopt any censorship regime they wish.

It was the Federal Labour Government of Paul Keating assisted by the current Labour Government of Bob Carr who put into place the censorship framework that exists in Australia today (1995) endorsed by current legislation of the Australian Labour Party in New South Wales. It was the Carr Labour government (New South Wales) that sought to horrendous legislation with regards to the Internet back in 1996 that would make the current Liberal Party Internet legislation appear to be "freedom". This is to remind you that the proposals of the New South Wales Carr Labour government was to introduce legislation that would criminalise the downloading of material deemed "offensive" under New South Wales law.

It was the Australian Labour Party in New South Wales which prohibited the sale or exhibition of anything rated "X" ...1984 (Neville Wran ALP). The "X" rating in 1984 was far more liberal than it is today. As originally implemented it permitted almost anything that wasn't permitted under other classifications permitting almost anything and everything.

If I were you Den I'd be very cautious when it comes to considering voting for Mark Latham. He has endorsed the classification and censorship of children's books.

You'll find those who endorse freedom in the Liberal Party. This includes the current (soon to vacate his seat) Communications Minister Darryl Williams. In my view the Liberal Party is more open to reason than the Australian Labour Party and if you wish a particular point of view expressed you have a word processor at your fingertips (no doubt) and can write to your elected representatives.

I do.