den: (renderhack)
den ([personal profile] den) wrote2004-02-13 09:49 am

I dunno...

Elfwood has closed its SF gallery, and combined it with their Fatasy galleries so thatthey now only have SF&F. I moved my SF pictures to the new gallery as per instructions, and the following images were rejected despite being accepted in the SF gallery. Most of the rejections I accept; they were a bit abstract. These were rejected because they are supposed to have a fantasy element in them to be acceptable

http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D_Renders/titan.jpg/
http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D_Renders/alpine.jpg/
http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D_Renders/poohsticks.jpg/
http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D_Renders/mistymtns.jpg/
http://www.battyden.net/pictures/3D_Renders/terramilford.jpg/

I assumed drawing something from my imagination was good enough. My bad.

[identity profile] red-frog.livejournal.com 2004-02-12 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose if you just slapped a dragon into any or all of these (flying around the mountain peaks, for example) they'd be accepted.

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[identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com 2004-02-12 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Four "Landscapes with obligatory dragon" would be acceptable because they contain fantasy elements.

Don't mind me. I just needed to rant.

[identity profile] kaijima.livejournal.com 2004-02-12 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
While I can see why Elfwood rejected those pictures, I can also remark Elfwood has always, in general, had a stick up their collective ass about what defines "science fiction" and "fantasy". In times past at least, you would get rejected even if you had the dragon in the picture, if there were also anything that might be considered "science fiction" in the same image. God forbid you create a race of alien reptiloids which happent to look draconic but are on a space ship! That's not real fantasy. (Dragons should be flying over mountains and castles or maybe breathing fire on cows.) The great Elfwood Purge of Fan Art also would have seen fine artists like Julie Dillon lumped in with generic Sailor Moon crayon scrawlings.

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[identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com 2004-02-12 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
These were rejected because they're straight landscapes. Some of my others were rejected because they were abstracts.

I know of some images, particularly of Elves, that were rejected as Fantasy because they had some non-fantasy element in them. Good grief! Elves don't use guns! Everyone knows the modern Elf still uses bows and arrows.

This might chance now that they've combined the SF&F galleries. Dragons on spaceships may be acceptable.

But it is a free gallery and they can set the rules as they see fit. The "stick up their arse" is what made me remove all my dragon stories from there.

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[identity profile] azhreia.livejournal.com 2004-02-13 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
dragons flying around in spaceships ?


reminds me of E.E. 'Doc' Smith's Lensman series. That's not just science fiction ... it's _definitive_ science fiction, from the golden age when men were real men, and did their starship navigation with a slide rule. :-)

[identity profile] kelloggs2066.livejournal.com 2004-02-12 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww Foo.

They don't know good stuff when they see it. :(

Scott

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[identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com 2004-02-12 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
They were rejected as "inappropriate." I accept that. I whinge, but I accept it. What really stung me was when they purged their writer's library and deleted half my stories because they contained obscenities. I tried to discuss it with the moderators but I was told to "stop bitching." So I closed that gallery.

[identity profile] tygermoonfoxx.livejournal.com 2004-02-12 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the person who viewed them failed to take a close look and thought they were photographs rather than 3D renderings of fantasy landscapes. Elfwood has gotten more and more persnickety lately. I've heard complaints from other artists so it's not just you. It makes me glad I didn't ever get an account there.

[identity profile] weibchenwolf.livejournal.com 2004-02-12 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh....Uh...yeah.

I don't get their reasoning. Ok...let's be really harsh and say that the last few look more like Earth than any fantasy setting...that still leaves Titan which is beautifully SF.

I think they need to rethink their policies, or get rid of the idiot who vets things.

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[identity profile] dewhitton.livejournal.com 2004-02-12 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It's free. 8)

The moderators are volunteers who don't get paid. Sometimes their opinions are puzzling (like in the case of Titan) but I try not to complain too much.

[identity profile] elektron.livejournal.com 2004-02-13 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
They're beautiful backgrounds though =-)

All you need to do is stuff in a few space ships, and you can call it sci-fi.