Some questions
13 December 2003 11:04![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
denWhen did Animal Rights and Vegetarianism become linked? It seems almost every LJ community on Animal Rights is also a hard-core Vegan group.
What is the difference between Vegetarians and Vegans? Is it sort of like the difference between those who like Furry art and those who like Anthropomorphic art?
And the next vegetarian who calls me a "carnivore" will be called a "herbivore." I felt a little peckish up at the Mall this morning, so I bought a late-breakfast corned beef, lettuce and tomato sandwich. The lady beside me, who bought a "Wholemeal. No butter! And are your vegetables organic?" salad sandwich, snorted and muttered "carnivore" under her breath.
"Omnivore, actually," I said. "I eat meat, veggies, grain, dairy and fish."
"Well I don't kill animals, and will have no part in that activity. I love animals too much."
"Do you have a cat?" I asked. I resisted telling her that I love animals too, and kill them on a regular basis.
She looked startled. "Yes! And I take very good care of him!"
"Then your should look up the term 'obligate carnivore' and think about it. Cats are obligate carnivores." She stormed off with her herbivore sandwich and the bloke behind the counter gave me a funny look. "It means they must eat meat," I explained. "If she has a cat then she must feed it meat or she's neglecting it."
He laughed, then told me his salad bar was organic; his dad grew the tomatos and lettuses in hydroponic racks in a greenhouse near the river.
That sounds organic enough for me.
What is the difference between Vegetarians and Vegans? Is it sort of like the difference between those who like Furry art and those who like Anthropomorphic art?
And the next vegetarian who calls me a "carnivore" will be called a "herbivore." I felt a little peckish up at the Mall this morning, so I bought a late-breakfast corned beef, lettuce and tomato sandwich. The lady beside me, who bought a "Wholemeal. No butter! And are your vegetables organic?" salad sandwich, snorted and muttered "carnivore" under her breath.
"Omnivore, actually," I said. "I eat meat, veggies, grain, dairy and fish."
"Well I don't kill animals, and will have no part in that activity. I love animals too much."
"Do you have a cat?" I asked. I resisted telling her that I love animals too, and kill them on a regular basis.
She looked startled. "Yes! And I take very good care of him!"
"Then your should look up the term 'obligate carnivore' and think about it. Cats are obligate carnivores." She stormed off with her herbivore sandwich and the bloke behind the counter gave me a funny look. "It means they must eat meat," I explained. "If she has a cat then she must feed it meat or she's neglecting it."
He laughed, then told me his salad bar was organic; his dad grew the tomatos and lettuses in hydroponic racks in a greenhouse near the river.
That sounds organic enough for me.
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Veganism
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:16 (UTC)"You use the by-products of dead animals!" She accused.
"So do YOU." I retorted.
"I do NOT!" She insisted.
"Where the hell do you think the leather in those Birkenstocks you're wearing came from, a Vinyl farm?" I smirked.
Her jaw dropped.
I knew a photographer who was rather militant about not "using" animals, until I pointed out to her that the emulsion on her Kodak film came from cattle and horse hooves. Heehee. Ain't I a stinka?
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Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:17 (UTC)Vegan doesn't eat or use any animal products at all. Some also avoid honey.
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Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:18 (UTC)Re: Veganism
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:23 (UTC)Polyvore
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:23 (UTC)no subject
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:26 (UTC)I wonder if hard-core Vegans take vitamin supplements.
Re: Veganism
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:28 (UTC)no subject
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:33 (UTC)no subject
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:33 (UTC)By the way, although cats are considered obligate carnivores, it is theoretically possible to feed them a purely vegan diet as long as you supplement it with synthesized taurine and things like that. Some people do so. Others argue that's psychological torture. ;)
Re: Polyvore
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:33 (UTC)no subject
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:34 (UTC)no subject
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:40 (UTC)However, I find it typically very rare to find a moral vegitarian or vegan who doesn't springboard from there into a hollier-than-thou attitude; usually taking their opinion to indicate they are more enlightened and "evolved" than people with different viewpoints. Most people like this seem to only draw more attention to their own ignorance of many issues and facts by acting that way as well.
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Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:41 (UTC)In truth, I'm closer to being an omnivore than a polyvore; I just like the implied precision of the invented word. There are probably 10-12 things I prefer not to eat, including tripe, raw oysters, and cilantro and basil if they're major components, and kiwi fruit.
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Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:41 (UTC)Besides, meat is good. :)
Re: Polyvore
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:44 (UTC)I also like (but don't use for myself) the word one of my co-workers came up with for "won't eat warm-blooded animals, will eat fish" -- vegequarian.
Re: *snicker*
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:45 (UTC)no subject
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:48 (UTC)Re: Veganism
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:53 (UTC)And if no one wore woll or ate lamb, there'd be no reason to have sheep as a species.
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Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:54 (UTC)no subject
Date: 12 Dec 2003 16:59 (UTC)Re: *snicker*
Date: 12 Dec 2003 17:01 (UTC)no subject
Date: 12 Dec 2003 17:16 (UTC)Actually, I think saving the fuzzy woodland creatures is a good idea. 8) But, yeah, the holier-than-thou mob annoy me almost as much as the keep-the-animals-alive-at-any-cost mob, and less than the release-the-animals-into-the-wild people.
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Date: 12 Dec 2003 17:48 (UTC)no subject
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